tv Martin Bashir MSNBC July 5, 2011 3:00pm-4:00pm EDT
and we are guilty of that, but what they said about the media, and in jury selection, was there any influence from the mediaer to talking heads or did they decide the case on the facts? and second, i would like the know exactly what they thought happened or did they think that the whole case came down the reasonable doubt, because they could not say what happened. is that, and finally with the 4th of july and lincoln said that the highest calling in citizenship is jury duty, and i want to know if the they felt that way, because it sounds like it. >> and meg, people have been convicted where there was no body, and so obviously the unique part of this case is no cause of death, but it is not insurmountable, because we have seen people convicted with circumstantial evidence. >> absolutely. you have plenty of cases, and i have tried cases like that. and you can lose on circumstantial evidence or win. what was lacking in this case was any dots that really connected. we knew from to get-go, we never, nobody ever disputed that
casey was a pathological liar, told the police all kind of zanny stories and we know that she is zany, because look at er in the presence of the jury and she is sitting there stone-cold face everyday. that is not normal, but did that make her be first-degree pre- d premeditated murder? no. the jury will say, we know she is messed up and the dysfunctional family and we believe in the sexual abuse allegations and the family's dysfunction, but we could not particularly say that casey did it. no way, no direct evidence, and that is what hurt here. you had other characters in the family who acted weird. you never saw lee in the courtroom. why? you saw george and cindy do strange things in the trial. all of that led to reasonable doubt, and that came to the jury verdict here today.
>> and anne and meg, savannah are looking at the twitter traffic and the e-mails and the thing most is the chloroform thing still does not gel or jive well with these people who are twittering or sending out the tweets and what not and also the duct tape. as the prosecutor pointed out who would make an accident look like a murder. this duct tape issue still is i think it is questionable to a lot off people, and that we will hear from the jury and i don't want to second-guess them because they have been away from their families and sacrificed to come to the conclusion, but people are out there saying chloroform was searched here not by cindy anthony and there was duct tape on this child's remains. >> well, the thing is that the defense and the heart-shaped sticker was on there or not there when the picture was take n
and the residue and i will tell you that the case had a lot of phrenic evidence and jose baez, i met him at a forensic conference in seattle where he connected with others to do the homework and that showed from the verdict with the jury. and even the junk science and the air samples of the decaying decome position, and they have never used that in any case, and especially in florida and do you perhaps think they will find a person guilty and perhaps have them put to death with that kind of evidence? we have to respect their decision, because we don't try the case on facebook or twitter or in the media, it is in the courtroom. >> and san va nvannah, while we for the jurors to come out, and there are so much to speculate on, and face it that is why millions have been watching around the world, and the only people who can clarify this is the members of the jury. >> right. one thing that i tweeted here,
tamron, is that the law in the concept of not guilty is not the same as innocent. >> right, we hear that over and over. >> and it is not coextensive, and if the jurors talk to the media, they can provide an explanation of what they thought really happened here. i have a couple of questions on twitter whether she could be retry and the answer is no, because our constitution protects frprotect s us from being double tried as in double jeopardy. >> and they did not come to a unanimous decision as in the blago trial. and kerry, you are getting questions from people and i feel like this is a call-in show at this point, because we have the immediacy of the twitter and the facebook and that why the trial exploded because you could not talk to someone to bring up this trial over the past few weeks, but the duct tape issue as i pointed out and i'm sure you have heard, that people cannot resolve that part of the case.
>> let me take you to a place that most viewers did not go and that is because i was in the courtroom and so many of the photographs were not displayed because they were gruesome and the judge ordered them not. when caylee's skull was removed from the woods out there or the prosecutors called the swamp. it was sort of hard to actually see that the three pieces of duct tape were across the nose and mouth. but in a following photograph that the medical examiner provide and this is back at the medical examiner's office with the cameras down on the table it was clear that the tape was there, and jose baez argued that in the moving of the skull from the scene there back to the medical examiner's office that the tape had been rearranged and placed over the nose and mouth for a more powerfully impactful picture, and then there was the moment during the trial that some of the argument, or most of the argument took place out of
the earshot of the jury, but the prosecution put together a visual aid or a simulation is what the defense called it. they took a photograph of caylee and morphed in the picture of the skull underneath to confirm it was hers, and then they brought over electronically three pieces of duct tape over the mouth. the defense felt that was a recreation, visualization of something that could not be confirmed, and then included in the picture, along the side that they used to dissolve in there that picture of caylee was a smiling picture of her mother casey and the defense argued that was prejudicial and i don't know if the jury and i certainly hope we hear from them shortly whether they felt it was something that was a created image and rather than something that was indeed proof of what the prosecution was alleging. >> and we have some video,
kerry, of that scene where caylee's remains were found in the woods that day. i remember that day so clearly when we were on air and you had the investigators there and we wondered if the remains were in fact caylee's and confirmed and it is not terribly far from the family's home, but you know, it is interesting that at least in the very beginning and i love to talk to you especially kerry, because you have been following it from the beginning recall that cindy anthony was the face of her family. they were out and saying that their granddaughter was missing and contact the media. and so how would this exist with things that we heard in court that were alleged in court against george and lee anthony by casey? >> well, they have been publicly gutted, and i don't know how they move on here, because it is thele a gags l allegation of a things like the sexual
molestation and she was the victim of the father beginning at age 8, and victimized by her brother, and the back and forth of the mother at one point, and you know, cindy anthony from the earliest days of this was solidly behind her daughter, and when the evidence began to turn over a period of time, she still maintained that caylee was not dead and when i say that she maintained that, she maintained it past the dna evidence from the fbi lab confirming that this was caylee. in fact, she said in the courtroom here, that she admitted six weeks ago to herself that caylee was dead. so, people living in altered states as a result of not wanting to accept the reality of certain aspects of this, and then, you know, the best friend, it appeared in many ways for caylee was her brother lee who she actually looked at when he was on the stand and didn't give him a stern and angry look, but he was not in the courtroom as
far as i could see there today. so i don't know whether this family ever repairs itself. there has been so much tearing and damage and pain displayed for the world. and you know, this was a tree lined quiet hope spring street in orlando, and suburban street looking like any other and once behind the closed doors, so much more revealed. >> and savannah guthrie is still here with me and we have been talking about the time served or a short sentence, and she will leave jail soon. >> one would expect. >> and what kind of life after that? >> well, that is the question i was thinking about, and kerry sort of reporting about cindy anthony and the levels of denial. i remember one of the first pieces of testimony in the courtroom she said up until six weeks prior to the beginning of the trial, she was still looking for zanny the nanny, this fictitious person that casey
made up and told police and her family was the person who had stolen caylee anthony. i don't know what kerry thinks about this, but maybe a divide even between cindy anthony the mother and george anthony the father about the level of casey anthony's culpability or what they wanted to see happen here. it seems like george anthony on the witness stand last week came very close to saying that he had pretty much come to believe that casey was in some way guilty. he didn't exactly testify to that, but a it would have been inappropriate in the courtroom, but he made it clear that there was a time when he blooed casey anthony and that time was no longer here. >> and from the very beginning with the 911 phone call from cindy saying that my husband thinks that it smells like a dead body in the car. >> yes, she said it smells like a dead body has been in the car. >> another piece of evidence, and even if they rejected some of the forensic evidence, and
some of the air evidence was on the outer limits, but there was a lot of eyewitness or nose witness testimony, and including people close to casey anthony including george and cindy saying it smelled like something decomposing in the trunk and you wonder what the jurors did with that. >> let me bring in jami floyd, a criminal defense attorney, who is waiting the conversation here as we wait for jami, since i have not heard from you, let me get your gut reaction to this case? >> well, people say they are stunned by the verdict, but so often we have had cases like this for us who follow the case on the media and the twitter and the facebook, we know so much more than the jury knows and so many of your guests and including kerry who have covered the case for three years have made that point. i can't say that i'm stunned, but the fundamental facts remain
that they could not prove where the murder happened or how the murder had happened and couldn't prove whether a murder had happened. and since it was a murder trial, the jury had no choice but to come back with a not guilty verdict. and jose baez was undersold as a lawyer, but also he might never have stood up in that courtroom and the jury might have come back in the same way, because the prosecution ultimatelied that burden of proof, and it has been my experience they take that instruction more seriously than any other. and so, i think that if we all took a deep breath we might have been more prepared for this verdict and for the swiftness with which the jury came back. >> and let me ask you specifically about the child abuse and the aggravated child abuse charge and the not guilty on that and to savannah's point, the first degree and a lot of people understand that, but when you look at the chloroform search and some of the other behavior including the false
information about zanny the nanny and having held this child away from her mother, and what do you make of the not guilty specifically on that charge? >> well, on the same fact pattern and still not proved in court by prosecutors. really, all that the prosecution had here and had clearly were the false statements. the 31 days of not telling the truth, and really leading everyone, and i think that even her parents, too, on this horrifically false trail looking for this little girl. whatever happened, no doubt that she violated the law in that way and that is where the conviction came back, and the jury agreed on those counts as quickly as they did on the not guilties on the other, but that is where the entire prosecution case rested on those 31 days of false statements, and 31 days of behavior unbecoming a mother of a dead child. that just wasn't enough for a jury to come back on aggravated child abuse or on murder.
>> if you had to zero in on and i hate to put it this way, but mistakes by the prosecution since the burden was on them, what mistakes? >> i think in overcharging the case. this is a mistake made commonly by prosecutors in cases that are not as high profile as this one, but perhaps had they charged the case differently from to get-go, they might have had a better chance of bringing this jury around. now, it is always easy to look back, right. monday morning quarterbacking or tuesday afternoon quarterbacking, and it is always easy to look back and circumstances here is everything that they should have done differently and boy, wasn't the defense great, and a week ago we were looking at the case differently, so i don't want to be critical and even jose baez, himself, said at the microphone a few moments ago what an outstanding job he thought that the lawyers did, and he thought he was up against the best prosecution team he had ever seen. so they were trying to seek justice in the name of this little girl, and they should not be questioned in terms of their motivations. but overcharging the case often
does backfire. >> well, savannah, you had something? >> well, they did overcharge it, but the jurors had the option of a array of lesser charges and i never disagree with jami floyd, because she is one of my favorite attorneys out there, but another thing about the overcharging if that is what it was, they had to get a death penalty qualified jury so in some ways a good strategic way on the part of the jurors, because the jurors had to say in the right circumstances they would be willing to give the death penalty and by the very nature through that process, you weed out of the defense-oriented jurors who would say, i would never give the death penalty and i would not do it for moral reasons and they could not get on the jury. >> they are in rouare en route am expected to do that in the next five to ten minutes, but at this time, there are no jurors
interested in speaking to any members of the media. they do have their packets and they have asked for privacy and they will contact you if they are interested in speaking to you. again, judge perry is not releasing their names at this time. he is asking you to respect their privacy. >> the alternates? >> the alternates are on the way here and i will speak to them in less than five minutes. they have not been asked. >> are you going to ask them? >> i am going to ask them and we will talk to them. as soon as i speak with them, i will come back in and let you know if the alternates are interested in speaking to you. >> well, that is not the news we wanted to hear to be quite honest with you. >> the alternates -- >> for various reasons, but the savann savannah, the jury so far, they don't want to come out, and that is for privacy, and i get it. >> think about it, they want to
go home. they haven't been home in six weeks plus. >> and yes. >> and one juror has a cruise on july 7th, but a lot of the jurors who are given the opportunity to do a news conference like that say no, and even if it is one or two jurors who might want to talk to the media, but when everybody says, we are not going to talk to the mediaer to reporters and everybody says, yeah, me either and they are cosheiare cohesive enough over the course of a new days this or that juror is tracked down and somebody speaks and then you will start to see some. some jurors do not want to talk to the media and they never will, but color me not shocked if we hear from the jurors at some point. >> we will hear from one of those jurors because of the case, and i just think that with the high-profile case like this and jami, you can get in on the conversation, because we were all savvy watching the coverage of the o.j. trial, and the
viewers with the technology and the media availability, some of them talk, jami, eventually, but at right now, we stand at the same point an hour ago at 2:15 when we heard the verdict. we don't know how they came to the conclusion or what was the overriding conclusions that connected them more with the defense than the prosecution. >> i love it when the jury talks, because we learn so much more what went on in the course of the trial and the jury room than we will learn otherwise, but like savannah, i entirely respect their privacy. they do come out of the process on the day of the verdict very much a cohesive unit, and then as she says they break down little by little over time, and eventually with the case of this magnitude, we will start to hear from them. i hope not in the form of book deals and screenplays. >> well, we see that option a lot now. >> but i hope in the form of reasoned interviews with people like you. maybe we will see that tomorrow or the next day.
>> but in the meantime, we have talked from head to toe about this, savannah, but again, it is going to come back to this case, this mother, i mean, you think about some of the other cases that we follow where a parent, a mother is accused of taking their life of their own child, and it is heartbreaking for obvious reasons, but this one really hooked people in. to ooh different level with a court case that we have not seen in a long time. >> and a lot off times the people want us to do the forensics, why do people care so much? because this is not a celebrity and someone that everybody knows, but it is a process that everyone is interested in a case like this, and part of it is that a little girl goes missing and adorable little girl. we see the pictures. then the mother is attractive, and then all of the pictures of her partying and carrying on an galivanting around orlando, and people want to know what did she do? and then a search for the body, and then over time people are absorbed in the story and the
narrative and this trial is the culmination of a story that people have followed for three years for good or ill, and they feel they know the players and theories about what happened tab trial is the end. >> and we are really into the weeds here, but let me go back to kerry sanders standing by outside of the orlando courthouse where there is still quite a sizable group of people standing out front, kerry. >> there are. we expected that there might be a moment where cindy and george came out, but i don't think that is going to happen now. on the backside of the courthouse, our cameraman said he saw cindy -- sorry, casey anthony get into a jail van and taken back to the jail. she has left this area. i spoke to the jail and said, what happens if she is acquit and what is the plan be and they said they don't deal with what ifs so were she to be acquitted
they would have an appropriate plan in place for her to be able to slip into society without a problem. again, remember, that she was found guilty on lying to a police officer. and so, lying to law enforcement officers, she could ultimately get, i believe a four-year prison term, but remember, she has been in jail now for three years in a solitary cell with very little contact with anybody, and it is not uncommon in cases like this for the judge to give credit for that time served which means that you do the four years minus three, and she could potentially be out of jail in a year if she even gets that full four-year sentence. >> and savannah, you are nodding to that? >> yes, agreeing, and plus, even if there is no -- the judge maxed her out for each count of lying to police officers he doesn't have to say that she sentencing them consecutive, but to one year, and she has done
one year and let her out. some people say on twitter, it is a good point, they are surprised that the defense attorney did not ask for bail right away. >> yeah. >> and i thought about that when they were talking about the fingerprinting and going through that process, but what is also interesting and i'm always cautious of this people giving an analysis of her reaction, because we all grieve differently and express a different fashion, but it is a part of it, because it is one of the stories of showing to many faces of casey anthony and the stoic face and today we saw her smile in the courtroom after the verdict and obviously reason to smile, because she was facing the death penalty here. >> and people analyzing her demeanor in court, and we all watch it, but the jurors don't have a split screen on cable the way that we do, and actually watching a lot of the trials, for the most part, jurors are watching the witness stand out of the basic politeness, because that is the person talking to them, and maybe moments to steal
a glance at the defendant in any particular case, but they are not staring at her and analyzing the demeanor of the way the rest of us are. >> and with cindy and george and lee on the stand, and jami, they did lock eyes with lee saying he was not invited to the baby shower, and caylee born, and again, all things that we wondered out loud had anything to do with the case, but it was apparently the right strategy. >> i agree with savannah that we on media and twitter and facebook and all of the other online sites that are so much more part of the trial than five years ago and certainly ten years ago, we pay a lot more attention to demeanor than the jury does, but it is important. i know when i was a trial lawyer, i spent a lot of time to talk to the clients about how to behave in court. you did not want a client too e motive or too stone-faced either, and you were very much aware and i was at least of what
my client was doing next to me in that chair, because you do worry that on some level the jury is paying attention to it. i thought too much was made of casey's demeanor and here is how she behaves when the jurors are present and not. >> and are we focusing a little too much on this? and there were a lot of legal analysts who naturally will -- >> well, you know, that is not legal analysis, but psychoanalys psychoanalysis. >> yes. coming from the lawyers on tv. >> and the demeanor after the child died on june 16th and going out the partying down and showing no signs of grief whatsoever. >> and the recorded conversation with the mother and showing no concern about caylee, but worrying about herself. let me talk to kerry who has information for us. kerry, what have you got? >> well, we are doing a little backdoor communication here with the producer. i want to step away from this
prosition rig position and go across the street where i have a camera and microphone to get general reactions from people who have gathered from various parts of the community and the country to be here and we will hear some of their comments to what they have heard and tried to process. so i will be back in a couple of seconds. >> okay. i would love for you to get, that because it is a part of the storyline at this point. a, the jury and what they are saying about the verdict and i believe the continued fascination, why were we so invested in this. >> a cultural phenomenon, and it has a lot to do with the smartphones. >> this is the first trial of the digital age and the first major trial, and there was o.j. last century and casey this century, and this is the twitter trial, and the community that has grown up and i admit i am a part of it grown up on the twitter. it is kind of troubling to me as a trial lawyer, but fascinating to me as a citizen.
to see people engageded in the legal process on twitter, but they miss some of the educational process about the constitution, some of them along the way, presumption of innocence, and reasonable doubt -- >> look at her jami helping out the amateur attorneys there. >> and the conversation is good, and others will jump in to give them an explanation with 140 characters or less. >> and when the jurors were charged it was stay away from the newspapers and now it is twitter and this and that. >> and it worked. >> and we had a six-week trial with no issues with the jury and nobody sick and it is unusual. >> and nobody exposed to media. >> no reports of talking about the case, and no alternate had to be called in, and the deliberations were only whatever it was over the course of two days, but it is unusual. >> yes, remarkable. >> we have a note that judge perry who was also entertaining on his own and i think that he would have a book deal somewhere
soon, but nonetheless, a great judge said that he will not be releasing the names of the jury members and he is barring the names for release until further release, and the jurors have declined to speak with media at this time. this concludes the coverage of the casey anthony verdict as you heard it play out an hour ago. this young mother was accused of taking the life of her own child and found not guilty, and we will have more reaction to that coverage, and richard lui taking on the coverage, and we will thank kerry sanders and anne and meg. [ male announcer ] built like a volkswagen. the 2011 tiguan. [ grunts ]
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as to the charge of the first-degree murder, verdict as to count one, we, the jury, find the defendant not guilty, so say we all. >> i'm richard lui in for martin bashir on this july 5th, and this is what we are watching today. we want to go straight to kerry sanders who is looking at this live three years of heartaches, lies, twists and turns coming to a stunning climax in a florida
courtroom and we go the kerry sanders right now trying to get the reaction as we talked about from the last hour as the verdict came down at 2:15. so much of the reaction from the people watching this has become part of their lives, and what are you seeing there, kerry, as you are there speaking to some of the people there? >> it has. well, richard, i'm standing right here on the courthouse steps, and i can see that there are several hundred people gathering here at the front, and there is a family here who made their way over from vero beach which is a two-hour drive away, and your name is? >> susan minoni. >> reporter: and she is here with her daughter, and you are not only a more this, but grandmother, and what was your initial reaction when you heard the jury? >> devastated. very sad day in america in my opinion, but that little baby is dead, and there's just no justice for that little girl. we went to the gravesite this morning, and we put flowers and stuffed animals and teddy bears and --
>> i have dirt on my knee from going down to kneeling today and praying. >> reporter: what about the jury decision that caught you off guard. you assumed something? you thought they would come back with guilty? >> i have a 2 1/2-year-old daughter and a son who is 10 years old and to not report your child missing for 31 days du not make sense. it is like -- the statement of where she was. >> reporter: and to you, was that the strongest piece of evidence? >> yes. strongest piece. >> if i cannot find my daughter or son, and my husband and i are frantic looking for her, and so why couldn't she say where she was and why did she let so much time go by? >> reporter: and your mother says it is not so much a good day for the justice system, but there are 12 jurors who took on a difficult responsibility here who sat here for more than a month, and remember that you saw things and hear things that they did not. >> yes, that is what is so sad
to me. >> we heard so much that the jurors are not allowed to hear, and heard so so much more than them, and that is why so many people feel so strongly that, that wasn't the right choice, but we are not in their shoes, and we have to go with hap haed but it was devastate, because i don't feel that there was any justice for that baby. >> reporter: thank you both for joining us here. >> thank you. >> >> reporter: and i want to step of out of the way, because this is a large group of people who have gathered here all ages and races, and here is a young woman -- >> christine. >> reporter: and why are you here, because you did not know the anthony family or anyone? >> i just wanted to see justice going on. >> reporter: what drew you here and when you heard the response from the jury, what did you think? >> i couldn't believe it. it was unbelievable and i thought that maybe at least child abuse, but not the attempted murder or anything. >> reporter: thank you very much. how old are you?
>> 24. >> reporter: one year younger than casey anthony. i want to walk through here, because we can probably -- can we talk to you, si. i'm from nbc news, kerry sanders and i'm curious, what was your reaction today when you heard the verdict and why? >> shocked. i don't know, just shocked. that is like nothing. i mean, i was just surprised, speechless. that is all i can say, speechless. >> reporter: and what draws you here now? >> i live two blocks down the street, and i came down and saw the crowds, but i'm shocked. just shocked. that is all i can say. surprised. >> reporter: i see a young girl here and how old are you? >> tatiana. >> and how old are you? >> 9. >> have you been following this? do you understand this or are you down here with your father and others to see what is going on? >> kind of. >> reporter: you kind of ounderstand it, but when you get the sense of the people down here and the various ages and the number of people, and i am going to see if we walk around the corner here, richard, to
take you over to sort of an area that i have been walking in and out of on a regular basis and here is my colleague liliana, and can you pick it up with richard and tell us what you feel? >> well, kerry, honestly everybody is surprised. nobody expected this at least outside of the courthouse. people are saying that it was not fair and justice has not been served, and they at least wanted her life sentence, and nobody said they wanted to see her get the death penalty, but wanted to see her get some time. let's break a moment because something is happening over here. >> no justice for caylee! >> you can move over there as there is a protest area there. >> reporter: and you are hearing the courthouse bailiffs asking people to get back from that
location, and set up tape to keep people from the entrances but you hear people yelling no justice for safety, and harsher words, and i apologize because it is live tv, and if that of fends somebody. i want to hear you yelling and why are you so emotionally involved in this story? >> i feel like that the fact that she, there was so much that pointed to her doing it, and because they didn't have concrete evidence she wasn't convicted for it. >> reporter: you agree with the jury's decision here? >> no, i don't. i am saying that there is so much pointing towards her doing it. >> reporter: the bailiffs are pointing us back here because this is not the only thing going on here and the media is allowed to stay here, so i will, richard, bring us around here and turn the camera around and as jim craven, the cameraman, takes us around here folks are walking back out of the area as the bailiffs are asking
everybody to leave. >> stay right there. >> okay. kerry sanders is following the live reaction there outside of the white house, and kerry, you can clearly see a lof of those following the case there in front of the courthouse not happy and the alternate jurors may come to the cameras or speak however, we are hearing that the jurors, themselves, the key 12 years will not come to the microphonest that moment. we will dig into this deeper intop the case and the reaction it to right after the break. stick with us.
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on 4 of the 7 counts. >> well, the four easiest counts and the heart of the case was rejected by the jurors -- >> good afternoon. it is loud, and before we begin we want to tell you how this is going to flow. we have state attorney lawson lamar who will make comments and followed by orn county sheriff demings who will speak, and then we will conclude the presser. this afternoon, i would like to remind you, it is not an opportunity for independent interviews with the prosecution for with law enforcement or investigative officials. so, now, i'd like to introduce state defense attorney lawson lamar and orange county sheriff officer demings. >> i want to thank you al for the opportunity to speak. about 34 months ago october of 2008, i stood in the courtyard behind us after the grand jury
indicted casey anthony for the murder of her daughter, and i said that we would not discuss this case outside of the courtroom. i am pleased to say that we have not until this time. at that time i also said that the indictment was not a conviction and that the defendant is always cloaked with the presumption of innocence. i promised that we would do our talking in court. we did. for us, the case has never been about the defendant in particular, but it is always, it has always been about seeking justice for caylee and speaking on her behalf. some have exploited the case for personal gain, ad revenues or 15 minutes of fame. since day one we have kept the promise that we will be focusing on finding the truth about this child's homicide. the pretrial publicity generated by others has led to the great
expense of having to seek a jury outside of our media market. we have avoided making any statements that would feed the publicity and have only released what florida public records law requires us to release. that is whatever documents we furnish in discovery. so much of the angst and the taxpayer expense in this case could have been avoided if others would not have succumbed to the temptation provided by quick notoriety. we think that justice is best served when counsel does not render public opinions on matters in litigation. we have always tried to prevent the issuance of any statements that were not relevant, and that all relevant statements be made in the courtroom. there are a number of professional dedicated and talented people who persevered to bring this case to the conclusion.
linda drane-burdick led the team with great skill and energy. jeff ashton built a precision forensic case, and frank george presented ed ed a series of com witnesses, and this the trial team is world class in command of the evidence. they did it skillfully, and without histrionics. i'd like to thank the jury for the contribution to justice. the task they were asked to complete was difficult. in community owes them a debt of gratitude. ours is a factor process, and we have had a lot of help gathering the facts. the lead agency of this case has been the orange county sheriff's office. sheriff jerry demmings has led a great team, and a team i shall forever be proud of and i want to thank him personally for the excellent work that he and his department have done in order to bring this case together. at this time, i would like to
ask sheriff demmings to make a few short remarks. >> good afternoon. it is my duty and privilege to stand before you this afternoon to make a few brief comments as we have now come to the close of the murder trial involving casey marie anthony. i must acknowledge my investigative team who stands with me this afternoon. as we have just celebrated the fourth of july, independence day, we celebrate the united states of america and what freedom means to each of us. we must remember that men and women have died in our armed forces and law enforcement to protect the rights of others like us who value freedom, independence, and life.
for three long years the citizens of orange county have sought justice in the death of 2-year-old caylee marie anthony. on december 11th, 2008, caylee's remains were discovered. the orange county sheriff's office has been involved in the criminal investigation of her disappearance and death since july of 2008. there have been numerous individuals and agencies that have assisted us during the investigation and prosecution in the case of casey marie anthony. i must acknowledge a few of those individuals and agencies who have assisted us today. there have been numerous volunteers who assisted in the
search for caylee. i must thank the orlando police department, the orange county medical examiner, the orange county corrections department, the florida department of law enforcement, the federal bureau of investigation, the state attorney's office for the ninth judicial circuit here in florida. i must also thank personally state attorney lawson lamar and his team of prosecutors, especially attorneys jeffrey ashton and linda drane-burdick for the thorough, vigorous and complete prosecution in this case. i must also thank my deputy sheriffs, detectives, forensics and other support personnel who worked diligently to assemble
the evidence to conclude this death investigation. i could not be anymore proud of the performance of my staff throughout both the investigation and the trial. they have admirably represented the orange county sheriff's office and citizens of orange county, florida, throughout the process. now, i must also recognize the support shown to the orange county sheriff's office by both the community and the media throughout the proceedings. on behalf of the nearly 2,500 men and women of the orange county sheriff's office, we thank you for your support. as a verdict has been rendered, we ask our community to respect the decision the jury and court have made today.
in doing so, we ask for your continued peaceful acknowledgment of that verdict. historically, there have been other high-profile criminal prosecutions throughout our nation that resulted in civil disobedience. please, i ask this community that regardless of one's personal beliefs about the innocence or guilt of casey marine anthony, that you maintain your peaceful resolve. i also ask that those who do not live in the anthony's neighborhood, there on hopespring drive to avoid that area. deputy sheriffs will be patrolling throughout the county to ensure that order and peace
is maintained. again, i thank the honor abable judge for his report and i will turn it back over to him this afternoon. >> thank you, sheriff. we are grateful to the attorneys and staff that put this case on. all of you saw that linda greene's verdict brought together a specific case, jeff ashton brought wonderful evidence and rebutted scientific evidence with extreme skill and a series of complex witnesses and we owe them a lot. their staff backed them all the way. and the grand jury of 2008 provided this indictment, and we thank them for their work.
we have a world class medical examiners office and staff here and dr. jan did her wonderful usual work and i want to reiterate thanks to sheriff personnel yuri melitch, john edwards, the fbi, their laboratory people did work that was not only relevant in each and every case but excellent. i want to thank special agent nick savage, karen cowen and paula wolfe, their general counsel. i want to thank texas equusearch and the thousands of volunteers who searched for caylee marie anthony. the florida department of law enforcement, their laboratories did extremely fine work for all of us, the citizens. the pinellas county state attorney, bernie mccabe and his
staff's office, the oakridge national laboratory did amazing work. we're proud of all of them, and you need to realize that tomorrow my homicide teamless go back back to work as they do every day and they look for the pending murtd murder cases of 11 of which are children. child murders are not rare in america today, and those deaths are no less horrible and needless than that suffered by caylee anthony. the only distinction hfference does not highlight their murders. we do justice each and every day, protecting the innocent from criminals. that's what prosecutors do. we're disappointed with the verdict today, and surprised, because we know the facts, and we put in absolutely every piece of evidence that existed.
our team did an xemp playexempl. i'm proud of them. i stand by their work. i never criticized the jury. theirs is the task of deciding what to believe. reasonable doubt as to each and every element in a case, especially a kis like this, which is the most hard to prove, with no smoking gun and a tiny victim reduced by time and the elements to skeletal remains, those remains lacking in any chemical evidence that could be brought forward. this was a dry bones case. very, very difficult to prove. the delay in recovering little caylee's remains worked to our considerable disadvantage. our mountain of evidence did not eliminate in the jury's view every reasonable doubt. the investigators, the scientists and the prosecutors
did their jobs. so did the jury. we do not criticize them. so did the defense. they did a good job. we go back to work tomorrow to prosecute the 101,000 cases that have come to us each year, the 140 pending murders and the 11 remaining child murders. we thank you for your attention. we thank the public for their attention to this case, and i would reiterate the request the sheriff made for the public, despite what your personal view is to guilt or innocence might be, the criminal justice system has worked. we did our job. the jury did their job. the court was extremely well managed, and this is justice in america. we go forward to fight again tomorrow with great thanks to all the people that have helped us do our duty. this concludes the presentation. thank you.
all right. state attorney lawson lamar there, the prosecutor as well as sheriff jerry demming speaking just now. savannah guthrie is with us. not seeing the verdict or jeff ashton come to the microphones. in most cases used to seeing them respond. >> you've will you you do see the district attorney and then generally speaking you do hear from the line attorneys who prosecuted the cases at a minimum generally, thank their team, thank the agents that worked on the team. it's a tough moment and nobody likes to stand in front of the cameras and admit defeat, particularly on a high-profile stake. we don't know if they were given the opportunity and declined or whether it was decided by authorities higher than them they shouldn't speak. i will mention, no matter what, the prosecution, those lawyers,
would have been sharply curtailed in what they could say. not like they would stand up and say we think she's guilty and should have gotten the death penalty. they would have said we put on the best case we could, are disappointed by the verdict but respect the jury's work here. there's no way they would stand up there and rale against casey anthony or say the lawyers or stupid or did a bad job. that's the story of the afternoon so far. we want to hear from the jurors, but haven't yet bp i have a feeling we may hear from at least one or two before this day is out. >> great. savannah, thank you so much. stick around, as well as jamey floyd, still with us. more on the verdict on the casey anthony case right after this. and the defendant approach and the defendant approach the podium. is more important t. at remax.com, you can find the experts you need, whether you're trying to sell of hoping to buy. nobody sells more real estate than re/max. visit remax.com today. ♪♪